tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post7826197142026859226..comments2024-03-27T05:14:23.738-04:00Comments on Lovely Bicycle!: Re-Trying the Moustache HandlebarVelouriahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-54594378818418104202013-05-15T21:17:36.966-04:002013-05-15T21:17:36.966-04:00The style is the Porteur bar and yes the Rivendell...The style is the Porteur bar and yes the Rivendell version is not original. Petersen merely exaggerated the sweep. Nphorcerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543601756155495033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-42957855144702678792013-02-19T13:31:21.037-05:002013-02-19T13:31:21.037-05:00I agree the logic is backwards. It is in the &quo...I agree the logic is backwards. It is in the "aggressive position" where you want access to braking. Off road riding and descents would be hairy if the moustache had brakes mounted in the aft position similar to a north road bar. Garretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16052829324146282574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-31248098089530793182013-02-08T20:58:42.160-05:002013-02-08T20:58:42.160-05:00I think that the "moustache" handlebar, ...I think that the "moustache" handlebar, or at least something very similar, is actually as old as our grandfathers. I recall seing it on old French bikes. Really old, that is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-54591336866907549132013-02-06T17:30:27.948-05:002013-02-06T17:30:27.948-05:00"pictures of bicycles that members of their s...<i>"pictures of bicycles that members of their staff own ...not a single moustache bar."</i><br /><br />For shame, Rivendell. For shame!Velouriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-12986799151757791352013-02-06T17:29:43.393-05:002013-02-06T17:29:43.393-05:00Picked up my new Rivendell Sam Hillborne today.......Picked up my new Rivendell Sam Hillborne today........ wtih moustache bars! Never used them before but have loved their looks since the Bridgestone days. Sold my road bike with racing geometry and STI levers. I'll keep you posted how it goes.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15873728708321423251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-34046003489860032972013-02-06T14:57:16.479-05:002013-02-06T14:57:16.479-05:00The Rivendell website has recently added a section...The Rivendell website has recently added a section with pictures of bicycles that members of their staff own. At what should be the mother church of the moustache bar, I saw lots of lugs, fenders, baskets, reflectors, and one-inch threaded stems, but not a single moustache bar.<br />That being said, I have a moustache bar on my Surly Cross Check commuter. It took me a while to dial in the stem and brake placement, but now I'm pretty happy with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-33778728712152589512013-02-04T20:45:56.746-05:002013-02-04T20:45:56.746-05:00Here's a couple comparisons between Moustache ...Here's a couple comparisons between <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3090771332/" rel="nofollow">Moustache</a> and <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3088359482/" rel="nofollow">Origin 8 Gary bars</a> (Midge clones. There are a lot of similarities, but in the end the Gary/Midge types just didn't offer enough variation.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/5846158807/" rel="nofollow">Salsa Woodchippers</a> on the other hand worked much better, but still not as good as my Moustache bars.cyclotouristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08432432995861421062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-82914803966073075142013-02-04T16:02:16.664-05:002013-02-04T16:02:16.664-05:00Two years ago I replaced the straight bar on my Fi...Two years ago I replaced the straight bar on my Fisher Nirvana hybrid with an upside-down North Road. Standard brakes fastened 5 1/2" from the bar ends and tilted slightly to the outside so the levers are easy to work. Thumb-shifters fastened immediately forward of the brakes and also angled - which nestles them in the curves of the bar and allows me to ride with thumbs on the shift levers and fingers on the brakes if I need to. Far more comfortable than the old setup. The bars are wrapped in shellacked cloth tape and four twine whips. People stare at the arrangement fairly often - which I've decided to take as a compliment on my style, and not as a judgement on my sanity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-73896946875393746872013-02-04T15:10:31.096-05:002013-02-04T15:10:31.096-05:00I have the Nashbar moustache bar on my road bike w...I have the Nashbar moustache bar on my road bike with bar-cons, and absolutely love it. I ride half-centuries with it all the time, and would never trade it. Unlike some of the others, it sweeps back a bit more so that I can ride in a sort-of upright position. But the bike itself is low-trail and essentially begs to be ridden with no hands from time to time, so if my back gets tired I just sit perfectly upright for a few minutes. <br /><br />There may be more hand positions available with a drop bar, but I find absolutely none of them comfortable even for a few minutes. <br /><br />Thanks for the post. <br /><br />RichardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-36338855266632759562013-02-04T14:59:02.258-05:002013-02-04T14:59:02.258-05:00To change any traditional non-aero lever that pull...To change any traditional non-aero lever that pulls downward to an aero modern lever that pulls forward rotate the cable nipple socket 90 degrees.<br /><br />To brake hard brake hard.<br /><br />Leverage enters the system at a multitude of points. The whole system works or doesn't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-50980689183899306542013-02-04T14:54:56.459-05:002013-02-04T14:54:56.459-05:00I see what you mean. It does look like you could ...I see what you mean. It does look like you could get them a long way around before it became a problem, especially since you can set the brakes to have minimal slop and they won't come all the way back to the bar.Dan Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05403831455546985198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-41130716415025212692013-02-04T14:43:56.462-05:002013-02-04T14:43:56.462-05:00I believe some French bike boom eras came with a v...I believe some French bike boom eras came with a variant of these. The few that I've seen were on mixtes.<br />I built up a Mercier mixte awhile back that came with some moustache types. IIRC, they were installed originally upside down of what typical m-bars nowadays would be.<br />The ones I used were steel, had road tubing diameters. All dimensions (forward reach, width) were smaller than an M-bar, and I think the curves were tighter.<br />Only have one photo that doesn't help too much: http://s821.beta.photobucket.com/user/dabanzer/media/bicycles/74a94a56.jpg.html<br /><br />Daviddb bicycleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08635603740614368801noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-85103690735431879642013-02-04T12:26:16.098-05:002013-02-04T12:26:16.098-05:00I have the moustache bars on my fixed gear and use...I have the moustache bars on my fixed gear and use the reverse brake levers so the whole bar is available for various hand positions. A shorter/taller stem makes them usable for me, otherwise the reach would be uncomfortable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-31228217318381810102013-02-04T11:24:01.451-05:002013-02-04T11:24:01.451-05:00Thanks for the replies. I think I understand these...Thanks for the replies. I think I understand these bars. Never tried any of them myself; the bikes I see them on have not been in a size I can ride. But I've heard them described as being "somewhere between drop bars and Moustache bars" hence my question. Seems like ergonomically, they are a different thing entirely. Velouriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-50198088247097326452013-02-04T11:16:17.977-05:002013-02-04T11:16:17.977-05:00I think the first XO with the Moustache bars came ...I think the first XO with the Moustache bars came out in 1991. I doubt he has a patent on the bars, and the design is a self-admitted modification of another style.<br /><br />But I would like to see a picture of your Peug. I would be very, very surprised if they are in fact the same bars. Velouriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-13308684543604300432013-02-04T09:52:52.370-05:002013-02-04T09:52:52.370-05:00Oh, me, me, me! I just installed a Midge on my Far...Oh, me, me, me! I just installed a Midge on my Fargo, wanting something wider for more steering leverage off road where the otherwise very comfortable 42 cm Noodles were pretty useless and 46 Noodles were too wide and deep for my taste. <br /><br />I tried M-bars at least half a dozen times over the years, and even commuted on them (~10 miles each way) for a couple of years, but found the lack of any sit-up-and-relax position annoying. Odd, though, I found them most comfortable when set lowish and forward like a drop bar -- except for the absence of a high flat portion.<br /><br />But consider the Midge to be the perfection that the M-bar was vaguely groping for: you get the immense control (you *do* find yourself climbing in a higher gear thanks to the huge leverage). I'd used many if not most of the other flared drop models before and never liked them, but the Midge is a true keeper -- with one problem, below. The very shallow drop and short reach make up to a degree for the huge 58 cm width at the ends, and they are designed with a fully 38 cm long flat, something sorely lacking on the M-bar as well as on many of the other flared drops, like the original WTB. Combined with Tektro levers, with long hoods, and thick, Lizard Skin DSP 3.2mm bar tape, the Midge's hoods are the most comfortable I've used, and with the right tilt the hooks are also very comfortable. Except: the heel of my left hand is very sensitive, and I've had to be very careful about the tilt -- my road bars are comfortable when more or less horizontal which doesn't work with the Midge -- and to all additional padding at the end of the left hook. Jury still out there, but I like the rest so much that I am hoping to find a solution to that numbness.Bertin753https://www.blogger.com/profile/02860648732848589740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-70258760438526136272013-02-04T06:40:18.147-05:002013-02-04T06:40:18.147-05:00I think in one of the Bridgestone catalogs Grant P...I think in one of the Bridgestone catalogs Grant Peterson says he saw the moustache handlebar shape on bikes in Japan and modified the bends for the XO-1. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-38680878148131302132013-02-04T01:40:24.624-05:002013-02-04T01:40:24.624-05:00It's been around for a while - there is an ext...It's been around for a while - there is an extensive discussion of setting up and using moustache handlebars here<br /><br />http://www.stanford.edu/~dru/moustache.html<br /><br />TonyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-40951216570554076162013-02-03T22:28:21.353-05:002013-02-03T22:28:21.353-05:00For a levelish distance commute on an oldish some...For a levelish distance commute on an oldish somewhat smallish-for-me road bike, I like upside down M-bars and down tube shift levers. Don't like the cable clutter of bar-ends or brifters, regardless of setting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-35145788638075720322013-02-03T21:51:44.586-05:002013-02-03T21:51:44.586-05:00You rang?
Of the ones mentioned above, all but th...You rang?<br /><br />Of the ones mentioned above, all but the Woodchippers seem to offer one good position. Basically just in the drops as there isn't much across the top, and the hoods don't work so well IMHO. The Woodchippers are pretty neat though. They have a longer top section, and the hoods are useable (but not great). The trick with all the above is that <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4576760855/" rel="nofollow">the bars need to be set high.</a> They're build around riding in the drops, so you have to have that position maximized. <br /><br />Apropos to this posting, I find the Moustache bars work better for me than any of the modified drops, and I ride them plenty in the dirt. cyclotouristhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08432432995861421062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-28565499065997715962013-02-03T20:04:11.635-05:002013-02-03T20:04:11.635-05:00Also caliper rigidity, housing rigidity, cables th...Also caliper rigidity, housing rigidity, cables that are strong and coated with Teflon (housing too), optimized everything else.GR Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01145811568384053426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-26817092679086462312013-02-03T20:00:18.074-05:002013-02-03T20:00:18.074-05:00The return doesn't allow for enough lever trav...The return doesn't allow for enough lever travel.GR Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01145811568384053426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-80312695806887616222013-02-03T19:54:53.447-05:002013-02-03T19:54:53.447-05:00Sigh. Me again.
Entirely diff. No bracing on mo...Sigh. Me again.<br /><br />Entirely diff. No bracing on moustaches but for thumbs, grip area too curved around lever, can't use hoods.<br /><br />Those others you can brake from the hoods or bend. Use return for climbing.<br /><br />Moustaches are OK jra bars, lousy serious dirt bars.GR Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01145811568384053426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-91093811014572270962013-02-03T19:32:42.502-05:002013-02-03T19:32:42.502-05:00I bought a vintage Peugeot from an older French co...I bought a vintage Peugeot from an older French couple who brought it over from France when they first moved to the US. This model was never manufactured in the US and his wife gave it to him as a gift for his birthday is what she remembered was '78 or '79. It has the exact same mustache handlebars as these photos, which I take are the ones on Bridgestone. Can we truthfully say Bridgestone had the patent on this style as the original maker?Atwater Girlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04996826585834005066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-87644030783756836882013-02-03T18:03:50.690-05:002013-02-03T18:03:50.690-05:00I prefer full beards over mustaches...Just me.I prefer full beards over mustaches...Just me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com