tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post4062776600997292740..comments2024-03-29T04:01:31.445-04:00Comments on Lovely Bicycle!: The Rental Market Velouriahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-92050878599073423652016-02-10T15:45:15.424-05:002016-02-10T15:45:15.424-05:00I haven't been able to find any information on...I haven't been able to find any information on good places to rent bikes in the Henderson, Nevada area. cit154_evehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07698765518032584124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-45941019502356240462016-02-03T22:06:25.070-05:002016-02-03T22:06:25.070-05:00I was just sent this list via the Winter Cycling C...I was just sent this list via the Winter Cycling Congress currently in session here in the Twin Cities.<br /><a href="http://wintercyclingcongress2016.org/2016/01/28/rent-a-bike-at-wcc16/" rel="nofollow">Rent A Bike During Winter Cycling Congress '16</a> <br />Apparently Spinlister is a thing here, too.<br />Corey Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15381826721030941179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-62610510209271214612016-02-02T15:04:18.788-05:002016-02-02T15:04:18.788-05:00A couple of years ago, I went on a business trip t...A couple of years ago, I went on a business trip to my company's EU headquarters in Cologne, Germany. I had been biking to work for several years by that point, and having heard a lot about the generally superior bike infrastructure in Germany (at least, compared to what I was used to back home), I saw no need to stop my bike commuting during this trip. I contacted the office manager in Cologne in advance of the trip, fully aware that this was an unusual request, to get her help in arranging a bicycle rental. In the area near the office (which was not in central Cologne, but in the suburbs) there was only one option*. There was a bike shop in town that didn't even offer rentals on a normal basis, but the shop owner agreed to lend me his personal bike, for a nominal fee (I think it was 50 euro + 10 per day). The office manager did the heavy lifting in terms of arranging the deal with the shop owner. I knew enough German and he knew enough English so that we could communicate in the shop. When I tell this story to others I like to say that we spoke "bicycle". It was a fun experience, and thanks to it and the efforts of my wonderful office manager, I didn't need a car for the two weeks that I was there.<br /><br />* I think that there's a bike-share system in Cologne, though I only learned about it after I got back to the US. Note to self: next time, when traveling, look up the bike rental/share options before booking the trip.Morlamwebhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17799436150549217033noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-65525128692342330882016-02-01T19:21:21.064-05:002016-02-01T19:21:21.064-05:00This blog seems to be all about bicycles as relati...This blog seems to be all about bicycles as relationships. What can you figure out from a first date? Personally, I think bikes are easier to figure out and simple tests are available. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-8114465548029388712016-02-01T17:11:35.427-05:002016-02-01T17:11:35.427-05:00I have completely resigned myself to the process o...I have completely resigned myself to the process of buying used bikes on Craigslist, trying them out for a year or two, and reselling them — just to be able to tell what my needs and wants are out of a bicycle. A short test ride is inadequate — it's like a first date! You just can't tell how the bike will do on various hills, with different types of bags attached, in different weather, with different tires on it, and so on. There are always surprises. Josettehttp://josette-the-voice-within.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-41986978590866464182016-02-01T09:29:05.620-05:002016-02-01T09:29:05.620-05:00The Twin Cities bikes share seems to be going like...The Twin Cities bikes share seems to be going like gangbusters. I can't find a demographic breakdown as to what percentage are tourists, which are locals, etc, but WAG and observation tells me it's about 40/60 local travel vs tourists during the height of the season. Like there in NI, one can ride late and still have sunlight, and the share bikes have dynamo head and taillights. <br />Interestingly, the bikeshare web site lists longer term and specialty rental places for those who want something other than an hour on an upright 3 speed. <a href="https://www.niceridemn.org/bike_rental_shops/" rel="nofollow">Nice Ride Minnesota - Bike Rental Shops</a><br />I know of one or two possible others on the St Paul side of the river, but those are strictly word of mouth.<br /><br />At first I thought the bike in the top picture was a Flying Pigeon, tied in with your first sentence. On second look- nope, that's a real Raleigh-built High Nelly. If it's yours, that's a *great* place for her to repose for a while.Corey Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15381826721030941179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-32528952854692805142016-01-31T19:07:37.782-05:002016-01-31T19:07:37.782-05:00Well, it got even better because as time went on i...Well, it got even better because as time went on it became apparent that the proprietor was a bike builder I'd actually heard of named Tim Stredwick, who builds steel touring and randonneuring frames way down at the bottom of the world. He came to the leasing thing with a highly evolved sense of what makes both a functional and attractive bike. Great luck on our part.dcainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03993605656392392942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-11407678484734057982016-01-31T18:24:06.571-05:002016-01-31T18:24:06.571-05:00The more interesting aspect brought up by this thr...The more interesting aspect brought up by this thread for me has been the almost impossibility of experiencing a bicycle before purchase. If I could not try on clothes before purchase my closet would be nearly empty! I really would like to buy what might be my last good bike, so a not inconsiderable sum for me would be involved. Sitting astride one in a shop is not going to get the cash out of my hand... Colinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01667939789517989280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-63014262823570261182016-01-31T15:41:59.000-05:002016-01-31T15:41:59.000-05:00I know three bike shop owners in my area and only ...I know three bike shop owners in my area and only one of them rents out bikes. He does it b/c he can and it's a headache, mostly, for him and his employees. Every shop that has had this as a service is now gone (in my ten years here) so I'm thinking there must be problems. <br /><br />I like the idea of travelers being able to find a bicycle at their destination. I especially like Bed and Breakfast places or small hotels who provide bicycles for their guests to rent. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-45217508368392665072016-01-31T14:49:19.203-05:002016-01-31T14:49:19.203-05:00Sounds about right. Though I only vaguely remember...Sounds about right. Though I only vaguely remember renting (alpine) skis once and being shocked by the price. Velouriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-49756167352614769732016-01-31T14:45:03.525-05:002016-01-31T14:45:03.525-05:00Thanks, that is useful to know! Thanks, that is useful to know! Velouriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-81754993420186050182016-01-31T14:44:07.018-05:002016-01-31T14:44:07.018-05:00Correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds like your ...Correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds like your opinion is based on a specific bike shop/ bike shops you have experience working at. It could be that a lot of this is area/culture specific. Namely I am not sure that the bike shop owners I've spoken to would agree that rentals primarily "generate traffic and foster goodwill;" I'd say they view it as a profitable venture. <br /><br />As for shops that do not allow bikes to leave the floor, I understand from the owners it is an uncomfortable situation for them - in that this model of selling bikes is working less and less well in the internet age, yet they are concerned they cannot afford the wear and tear of test rides. For these shops, I genuinely feel that charging a rental fee for test rides could be a solution. Velouriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-15091425327368664282016-01-31T14:22:35.393-05:002016-01-31T14:22:35.393-05:00That is surprisingly good news! Sadly, in Ireland ...That is surprisingly good news! Sadly, in Ireland at present you are not likely to be presented with such objects when seeking bike rental service. Velouriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-2881662463052696562016-01-30T21:51:31.959-05:002016-01-30T21:51:31.959-05:00Anticipating an upcoming fully loaded cycling trip...Anticipating an upcoming fully loaded cycling trip in Tasmania my wife and I initially planned to ship our bikes and all our gear with us. As the trip drew near and we envisioned the complexities of packing, expense, potential loss or damage, and storage while we were not cycling, we decided to look into renting. Being heavily invested in the function, design and dialed in-ness of our own bikes I had my reservations about what we might find for rentals but thought it was worth investigating. Lo and behold we found a company (Long Haul Tasmania) that clearly understood the needs and requirements of long distance cycle tourers. I was a a great relief to know that we'd be well equipped without having to do everything it would have taken to get our bikes there. And we were not disappointed; the bikes (Wayward Bicycle Co., an Austrailian brand designed with the rigors of the country in mind) were perfect, with fenders, Brooks Cambium saddles, proper racks, etc.. It was the right move on our part.<br /><br />Ideally we'd bring our bikes with us on such trips, but renting made things work for us in this scenario. dcainhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03993605656392392942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-17566428534133700792016-01-30T20:08:22.965-05:002016-01-30T20:08:22.965-05:0010% per week would be pretty reasonable when compa...10% per week would be pretty reasonable when compared to renting other sports equipment like skis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-33556537635363650342016-01-30T18:18:26.530-05:002016-01-30T18:18:26.530-05:00Some odd notions here as to what a two year old bi...Some odd notions here as to what a two year old bike might be worth. A pure garage queen that has never been ridden at all is only worth half its original purchase price. Even that assumes that the bike is not a trendy fashion victim sort of bike, that the buyer has done an in-person inspection and has good reason to believe the bike is as represented. It assumes a normal market, whereas the bike business is constant booms and busts, with closeouts firesales and clearances at great frequency. A shop owner will not pay half price for such a bike. He can buy the new model from the manufacturer at that price, and get it in the size, color, and accoutrements that will work in his showroom.<br /><br />If a shop were to accept a return, or take back a hypothetical lease, they aren't likely to sell it. It might go to an employee or a friend. Maybe. If the bike has been used it will need, at minimum, new chainrings new chain new cassette new derailleur pulleys new tires new cables new pads new saddle new tape new hoods new pedals. If it's a top of market lightweight with carbon parts it also needs new 'bars new stem new seatpost. If it's a high end bike it also has carbon wheels and those will be replaced as well. Normal wear and tear may mean the bike needs a paint job. Why is this worth doing?<br /><br />Bikes with very special provenance sometimes have resale value. Rivendells have resale value, but they sell as artifacts to a fan club.<br /><br />Shops rent bikes to generate traffic and to foster goodwill. In a few tourist towns there could be money in it. Shops quit renting bikes when they sit down and run the numbers and see how much they have lost. The Irish shopkeepers who won't let the tires touch pavement are a good baseline. That's how you behave when you know there are no externalities available that allow you to overlook losses. If you live near a shop that gives away something for nothing because they are cognizant of suitable externalities, go ahead and take advantage of that. Don't expect that to be normal business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-81405054174201766712016-01-30T16:07:07.124-05:002016-01-30T16:07:07.124-05:00It is Revolutions in Memphis, Tennessee. Here'...It is Revolutions in Memphis, Tennessee. Here's a link: https://revolutionsmemphis.wordpress.com/. Kendrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18329731743529266746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-34368851635301046692016-01-30T16:06:40.066-05:002016-01-30T16:06:40.066-05:00That might actually be my 1930s roadster, used as ...That might actually be my 1930s roadster, used as a dispaly. Velouriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-80210265684678172732016-01-30T13:43:18.531-05:002016-01-30T13:43:18.531-05:00The bike in the window can't be a rental, can ...The bike in the window can't be a rental, can it? That thing looks like a dangerous ride. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-36275727238199596142016-01-30T07:28:14.408-05:002016-01-30T07:28:14.408-05:00I think leasing makes a lot of sense in that conte...I think leasing makes a lot of sense in that context. Around here the type of rider you mention tends to 'upgrade' every 1-2 years, and will often sell the 'old' bike at a considerable loss on a local Gumtree-type site (where the market is limited), because they can't be bothered to do the packing and shipping thing through ebay. Leasing would offer a more streamlined and more economical way to achieve the new bike every year thing. And I think the model would work even for a fairly small bike shop. It is not uncommon for bikes to stand on the floor for an entire year anyway, devaluing in the process. Velouriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-29455292575063056522016-01-30T07:19:37.687-05:002016-01-30T07:19:37.687-05:00Would you mind telling us what bike co-op this is?...Would you mind telling us what bike co-op this is?Velouriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-79792343912357979172016-01-30T06:45:16.078-05:002016-01-30T06:45:16.078-05:00I have rented in holiday locations in Europe, ofte...I have rented in holiday locations in Europe, often good midrange bikes but the prices can vary from very reasonable to what seemed like 10% of bike cost for a week! Even more outrageous by the day or especially the hour! I packed a Dahon folder for a week on bumpy tracks because of that. Anyone want to buy a Dahon, great for short trips, but...?<br /><br />Long ago I tried the community bike loan system in La Rochelle, the bikes were all too small and quite the worst lumps of iron I have ever ridden, they have been replaced with shaft driven bikes which look better but still look heavy. Not every bike scheme gets it right.Colinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01667939789517989280noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-79640797478513249852016-01-30T06:05:40.790-05:002016-01-30T06:05:40.790-05:00I get the impression that the usefulness of bike s...I get the impression that the usefulness of bike share, and the manner in which it is used, varies largely by city. In some areas it is used mostly by tourists, in others by locals, etc. The Chicago bike share always seems to get good feedback.Velouriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-14372198379473492262016-01-30T06:03:57.855-05:002016-01-30T06:03:57.855-05:00What you describe is partly what I meant under ren...What you describe is partly what I meant under renting high-end roadbikes. Aside from RSC (which is limited to the Seven & Honey models they carry), I cannot name any specific shops that do this, but I do know they exist. <br /><br />The demo models can be sold at clearance prices at the end of every 1-2 seasons, so I don't think it is that unrealistic. Velouriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-76019060880658003452016-01-29T23:48:26.183-05:002016-01-29T23:48:26.183-05:00Interesting. I wonder if they would have benefited...Interesting. I wonder if they would have benefited from focusing more on the service end to gauge demand and family preferences before investing in manufacture. Otherwise it would be a challenge to predict demand in any controlled way. A rental model might inspire a completely different way of using the bikes, say for much shorter periods, and even different types on different occasions, or more than one at a time if the parents are particularly awesome. What fun!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com