tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post2815751076871156595..comments2024-03-27T05:14:23.738-04:00Comments on Lovely Bicycle!: Cycling Water Bottles and the Plastic-Avoidant Velouriahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-43230568823430356612016-05-05T22:47:01.835-04:002016-05-05T22:47:01.835-04:00Picture this: Metal bottle, metal flip top to piv...Picture this: Metal bottle, metal flip top to pivots 180 degrees and is the right diameter for drinking from, mounted on a larger diameter screw top (for easier cleaning of the bottle). Use it with a plastic cage for no rattling, or put camp line or twine around your bottle (or the cage itself, as someone above brilliantly suggested). All metal, no rattle, drinks easily. Someone go make it, or tell me who already does....<br />monisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10818839592142898275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-64007260793893618202015-05-31T18:45:42.714-04:002015-05-31T18:45:42.714-04:00You need a lot less twine if you put it on the cag...You need a lot less twine if you put it on the cage rather than the bottle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-84066268564696784172015-05-05T13:16:29.029-04:002015-05-05T13:16:29.029-04:00WOW! Thanks.
Give me a shout at...spindizzy43@g...WOW! Thanks. <br /><br /> Give me a shout at...spindizzy43@gmail.com Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-84298204605326588972015-04-29T17:10:17.172-04:002015-04-29T17:10:17.172-04:00Poly carbonate is made up of repeating chains of B...Poly carbonate is made up of repeating chains of BPA and a carbonate groups. BPA is a fundamental part in PC. The problem is that some of the BPA doesn't get used up in the reaction and can make its way into the water. HDPE is what bike bottles are made of. It is chemically inert, it is chemically the same as very pure wax. They use a high molecular weight version in hip replacements inside the body with no ill affects. These things are very well understood and not controversial.It is just confusing for the lay person. Trust me I went to school to be an engineer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-81290522673646633642015-04-29T13:02:24.920-04:002015-04-29T13:02:24.920-04:00I wonder if the rampant mildew growth in your wate...I wonder if the rampant mildew growth in your water bottles now might be traced to unchlorinated water -- are you on a well, there? I have chlorinated water, and no mildew/scum problem in my plastic water bottles. Astridhttps://fishwrapper.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-15534079599700692662015-04-28T02:45:16.078-04:002015-04-28T02:45:16.078-04:00I use a Camelbak bottle. It is double-walled with ...I use a Camelbak bottle. It is double-walled with an insulating layer between so the plastic that holds the water is never hit by UV rays. The lid does not leak (my Polar bottles all leak) and the nozzle twists open and closed rather than having to tug/push with your teeth. The nozzle is easily cleaned with a cotton swab (Q-tip). I am reasonably certain that the exhaust and other pollutants I inhale on my rides are far worse than "drinking water that was touched by plastic" could ever be. twofishbluhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00125352235515090608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-50283401560245001792015-04-25T09:54:28.737-04:002015-04-25T09:54:28.737-04:00I'm afraid I mostly employ the Grant Petersen ...I'm afraid I mostly employ the Grant Petersen method of stopping to take a drink. I have both Klean Kanteens and a squeeze bottle and I use either one based upon the exact circumstances you described above. The problem I have with the plastic ones is that the cap accumulates dust and dirt while riding, and I tend to put my mouth right on it blissfully unaware of the grossness I just ingested. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16916475081711086964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-60699086787800748872015-04-24T17:25:05.195-04:002015-04-24T17:25:05.195-04:00Spin
Me again. I'm looking at a row of four #...Spin<br /><br />Me again. I'm looking at a row of four #770 tools on the shelf. There are more around here if I start to dig. Having a spare is a good thing but I don't need all this. All of them were found. Post an address and I'll send you one. Maybe something else too.<br /><br />P's and T's are what visitors always glom on to. I like to keep multiples around anyway. It's slowed down to where I don't score Campy that often but I have been doing it 50 years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-44950932117348663682015-04-24T12:25:43.511-04:002015-04-24T12:25:43.511-04:00I get it. I too never find properly prepared spare...I get it. I too never find properly prepared spare tubs but do find the occasional new unstretched. I have NEVER, ever, lost one of my own.<br /><br /> I don't bother stopping for tools anymore unless they look like they might be Craftsman or better, I still squeal with delight when the 1/4" drive ratchet complete with swivel extension and 12mm socket says "Snap-On" though. Pumps and tubes and tire levers I can't resist and sometimes find the owner and otherwise throw them in my "FREE" box at home where my friends and the Boy-friend of my Daughter and friends of the boyfriend of my Daughter grab them. If I ever find a Campy "T" or Peanut Butter Wrench I will likely have a little mini stroke. <br /><br />Spindizzy<br /><br />Oh yeah, Edith Wharton: ALWAYS. Fitzgerald: Meh... sometimes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-8983774641442590532015-04-23T10:12:50.391-04:002015-04-23T10:12:50.391-04:00My stainless steel bottle fits nice and snugly in ...My stainless steel bottle fits nice and snugly in the bottle cage. I'm new to cycling so still getting used to drinking on the go, but have none of the issues described in the blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-42504726000022347092015-04-23T07:41:38.235-04:002015-04-23T07:41:38.235-04:00Spin
What we're looking at here is the distan...Spin<br /><br />What we're looking at here is the distance between Edith Wharton and Scott Fitzgerald. I'm from the Midwest like Scott. Free goods are strewn over the landscape. Going back 40 years I would pick up any bottle, and then I started to pick up only bottles that were pretty new and might reasonably still come clean. I ended up with hundreds of bottles. Now I'm picking up the ones that were purchased yesterday or perhaps earlier this morning. The Polar nozzle that cleans is a boon and as long as there are marketers plugging that bottle I'll have a supply.<br /><br />Campy tools have dwindled to perhaps one a year. Tubulars are coming back. To give you some idea the kind of person who litters tubulars I will never see a stretched previously glued tire roadside. That's what you or I carry for a spare. The ones I see are always very new and topend only. Sitting in a group of a hundred riders and they think it's funny I will dismount and chase back just to pick up that distinctive orange box with the Sonderklasse inside.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-34183774732431414122015-04-22T21:02:44.682-04:002015-04-22T21:02:44.682-04:00I don't see bottles on the road as a rule, whi...I don't see bottles on the road as a rule, which now that you mention it seems a little strange but I wonder how big the population of Freds around here would have to be before there would be a reliable supply of one type and color and the possibility of finding nice ones often enough to maintain an inventory. I suspect you live somewhere where the breeding population of cyclists is greater than here(or the population of pickup truck drivers who try to nail anything that might produce a satisfying "POP" may be lower where you are).<br /><br /> I do pick up tubes and tools like you but not the sparkling little gems you run across(are you serious about finding Campy "T" and "Peanut Butter" wrenches on the road or are you just screwing with me? Let me relieve you of some of your extras. Really). I do see bottles on the trails when out in the woods sometimes but not often enough to maintain an inventory, and even then they are still all different types and sizes. <br /><br />And on top of that, even though my standards tend to be quite low, the idea of using a ground-scored bottle is sort of a stretch for me. It's not on the level of sharing needles of course but it doesn't quite seem to be "sharing a Coke with a friend" either. Oh well, my gradual descent into poverty and squalor doesn't show any signs of reversing so it's only a matter of time till I'm using an empty Four Loco can as a Bidon and will be reminiscing about the good old days of drinking from Virgin L.D.P.E.<br /><br />SpindizzyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-38192325884180744792015-04-22T09:53:35.054-04:002015-04-22T09:53:35.054-04:00I like stainless steel bottles (Klean Kanteen) but...I like stainless steel bottles (Klean Kanteen) but after reading this link <br />http://lhomme.et.largile.free.fr/temoignages/testimony.htm (see “making tap water safe”) I want to try plastic bottles because it’s said that clay isn’t compatible with metal. I’m going to try the recipe.<br />My target is to make healthy and chip tape water: a training to survival behavior.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />L.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-89860894067542011712015-04-22T07:17:08.727-04:002015-04-22T07:17:08.727-04:00In regards to bottles rattling in the cage, it is ...In regards to bottles rattling in the cage, it is easy just to make a cover for the bottle from stretchy fabric - I use the little drawstring bags provided with cheap sunglasses, they fit perfectly and there is no 'rattle' at all.spokeswomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05003029599627697118noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-24361251789418744002015-04-22T04:50:16.292-04:002015-04-22T04:50:16.292-04:00Ah, that could explain it. I don't use a brush...Ah, that could explain it. I don't use a brush, I wash them with a soft sponge. But I've had them for maybe 3 years now. Velouriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-59800867657170669852015-04-22T02:35:37.428-04:002015-04-22T02:35:37.428-04:00Even better; Get a complete goat, and have it run ...Even better; Get a complete goat, and have it run along with you with a stainless steel tank on it´s back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-26200052841113000722015-04-21T23:30:37.710-04:002015-04-21T23:30:37.710-04:00I use a hydration pack (Deuter or Source, not Came...I use a hydration pack (Deuter or Source, not Camelback). In the summer, when it's too hot to wear a pack, I put the waterbag in a pannier and run an extension hose up over my shoulder. Voilà.BGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15650718276049777977noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-58359756074109422622015-04-21T14:59:41.840-04:002015-04-21T14:59:41.840-04:00Velouria,
You may not know, but Kleen Canteen now ...Velouria,<br />You may not know, but Kleen Canteen now makes a "sport nozzle" that fits all of their bottles and it has a silicone valve that is higher flowing than the older tops and also no longer makes the annoying "slurpy-chirpy" sound that older ones do. I don't like the way the bottles rattle in the typical metal cage so I switched exclusively to an old throw-back from my mountain biking days in the mid 90s. Profile Design used to make a heavy duty plastic cage that they called the Kage. Search for it on ebay and you should still be able to find them. Profile still makes the style but seems to only include them on their triathlon bottle holder which is designed to fit behind the bike seat. Still, the Kages can be found on the 'bay for usually no more than about $5 a piece. I stocked up a while back since I didn't know if these great Kages would disappear forever. They would hold a water bottle amazingly tight when bombing singletrack, and even with a 27oz. stainless bottle they still hold it rock-solid with no noise. Velo Celthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13010623062893158733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-62091691500519889662015-04-21T14:21:20.741-04:002015-04-21T14:21:20.741-04:00The ultra-thin coating on the Purity bottles wears...The ultra-thin coating on the Purity bottles wears out fairly quickly, especially if you ever make the mistake of taking a stuff brush to it. So when new, the bottles are great: really amazing. But if you believe in using stuff for a long time they lose their effectiveness.djconnelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01484858820878605035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-63377153713185146612015-04-21T11:09:18.835-04:002015-04-21T11:09:18.835-04:00The purist bottles do smell less "plasticky.&...The purist bottles do smell less "plasticky." But. I live in Ireland now, and mildew here is like quicker growing and more tenacious than anywhere else I've been. Stainless bottles are somehow able to resist it, but plastic bottles develop it even after one ride if not washed immediately, and even after they are washed/dried/stored. The slime that builds up can then be very difficult to remove, and merges with the plastic smell to create an entirely new, ever more revolting breed of stink. Point being, the Purist bottles seem no less susceptible to this than my other plastic bottles. Hopefully this is not because I've scrubbed off the inner glass layer. Velouriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00359329171411037482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-78591728119719352782015-04-21T10:42:26.004-04:002015-04-21T10:42:26.004-04:00I use stainless steel, double-walled, vacuum insul...I use stainless steel, double-walled, vacuum insulated for commuting and running errands on my hybrid, and Polar insulated BPA free plastic for long rides on the road bike. The cage on the hybrid is adjustable both width and height and has no trouble accommodating a bottle of wine on the way home from the grocery store. I've found the most offensive thing about plastic bottles to be the smell they take on when they're not allowed to air properly between rides. We clean them well after each ride, and store them with the lids off. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-31307672064609274562015-04-21T09:47:33.151-04:002015-04-21T09:47:33.151-04:00No. Cyclists use cognac or homemade grappa. The on...No. Cyclists use cognac or homemade grappa. The only other possibility is to be like Freddy Maertens, the Man With Champagne in His Water Bottles. 373 professional victories with Champagne. Lanson Champagne. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-56677239363850798122015-04-21T09:40:08.908-04:002015-04-21T09:40:08.908-04:00You pay for bottles?? With money??
My bottles are...You pay for bottles?? With money??<br /><br />My bottles are all from curbside. I use Polar bottles exclusively. White ones. They're made in USA and the nozzle disassembles for complete cleaning. I see a white one, I slow down. If it got scuffed from falling, if it looks like it was used more than once, I keep riding. If it has some sticky energy goo inside I throw it back, don't want that junk in my pocket. I've seen a stainless bottle on a bike, in person, exactly once. That rider was full Grant to the seersucker. But I've curbsided half a dozen and two of them were twined. All of them were very new. Curbside NIB inertubes all seem to have long valves that don't work well with my flat rims, I only stop if I recognize a label says they're latex. Too many multitools to stop for those anymore. Campy T wrenches and peanut butter wrenches and pregnant wrenches are still available curbside, those I stop for regardless of how beat up they are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-55509327409578375352015-04-21T08:31:02.938-04:002015-04-21T08:31:02.938-04:00In my experience the Camelback set up is easier to...In my experience the Camelback set up is easier to drink from at speed than squeeze bottles as you do not need to tip at all to get water.<br /><br />Camelback water bottles fit King Cages. If you want to use stainless, the water bottle top fits some Sigg bottles anyhow. Probably others as well. <br /><br /><br />http://www.heartratemonitorsusa.com/camelbak-eddy-6-navy.html?utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=Camelbak+Navy+Eddy+BPA-Free+Bottle+20oz+(0.6L)&utm_content=camelbak-eddy-6-navy&utm_campaign=googleshopping&gclid=CPil0_mxh8UCFYVFaQodulsADAMatthew Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10408057524387021992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6467858377106451384.post-24781212262239632262015-04-21T08:21:35.357-04:002015-04-21T08:21:35.357-04:00Aluminum bottles are lined with plastic. Stainles...Aluminum bottles are lined with plastic. Stainless steel are not lined - maybe some are, but all the brands I'm aware of are just pure stainless. Best, LissaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com